Patrick sits down with Ruven Govender and Sean Michaels in Sydney, Australia. In the wake of the shooting in New Zealand, we talk about guns and killing, including the motivations and a machinations behind them, and come to absolutely zero solutions, other than thoughts and prayers. Ruven teaches us what a census is, which apparently has it’s roots in deep kiwi culture. We also discuss dick hair and color for some reason, 3D printing, and a bunch of other topics that just seem to roll out of our consciousness. It’s another down-under episode with no real beginning or end.